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[paul1598419]

I don't believe in a god, the devil, Santa Claus or the Easter bunny. So, God had nothing to do with Trump being here. It was just dumb luck.

 

[Aorus Forever]

Trump ranked as worst US president in history, with Biden 14th greatest​

Survey of 154 scholars places 45th president behind even ‘historically calamitous chief executives’ linked to civil war!
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Donald Trump finished 45th and rock bottom of a list ranking US presidents by greatness, trailing even “historically calamitous chief executives” who failed to stop the civil war or botched its aftermath.


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Worse for the likely Republican nominee this year, his probable opponent, Joe Biden, debuted at No 14.

“Biden’s most important achievements may be that he rescued the presidency from Trump, resumed a more traditional style of presidential leadership and is gearing up to keep the office out of his predecessor’s hands this fall,” Justin Vaughn and Brandon Rottinghaus, the political scientists behind the survey, wrote in the Los Angeles Times.

Rottinghaus, of the University of Houston, and Vaughn, from Coastal Carolina University, considered responses from 154 scholars, most connected to the American Political Science Association.

The aim, the authors said, “was to create a ranking of presidential greatness that covered all presidents from George Washington to Joe Biden”, in succession to such lists compiled in 2015 and 2018.

“To do this, we asked respondents to rate each president on a scale of 0-100 for their overall greatness, with 0=failure, 50=average, and 100=great. We then averaged the ratings for each president and ranked them from highest average to lowest.”

At the top of the chart, there was little change from previous surveys – the latter of which also saw Trump, then in office, placed last.

Abraham Lincoln, who won the civil war and ended slavery, was ranked first, ahead of Franklin Delano Roosevelt, who saw the US through the Great Depression and the second world war. Next came George Washington, the first president, who won independence from Britain, then Teddy Roosevelt, Thomas Jefferson and Harry Truman.

Barack Obama, the first Black president, to whom Biden was vice-president between 2009 and 2017, was seventh, up nine places.

Considering drops for Andrew Jackson (ninth in 2015 to 21st now) and Woodrow Wilson (10th to 15th), Rottinghaus and Vaughn noted the impact of campaigns for racial justice.

“Their reputations have consistently suffered in recent years as modern politics lead scholars to assess their early 19th and 20th century presidencies ever more harshly, especially their unacceptable treatment of marginalised people,” the authors wrote.

Jackson owned enslaved people and presided over the genocidal displacement of Native Americans. Wilson oversaw victory in the first world war and helped set up the League of Nations, but was an avowed racist who segregated the federal workforce.

Other major movers included Ulysses S Grant (17th, up from 26th in 2015), whose administration generated significant corruption but whose attempts to enforce post-civil war Reconstruction in southern states, including fighting the Ku Klux Klan, have helped fuel reconsideration.

Grant succeeded Andrew Johnson, Lincoln’s successor and the first president to be impeached. Like Johnson, Lincoln’s predecessor, James Buchanan, who failed to stop the slide to civil war, also sits higher than Trump on Rottinghaus and Vaughn’s list.

Trump is a uniquely divisive figure, his legislative record slim, his refusal to accept defeat by Biden leading to a deadly attack on Congress, and his post-presidential career dogged by 91 criminal charges arising from actions in office or on the campaign trail.

 

[RedCowboy]

 

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[paul1598419]

THANK GOD FOR PRESIDENT TRUMP..... BEST PRESIDENT EVER.

@paul1598419 .... I TOLD YOU SO !

This video is misleading. In fact, judges all over the Federal Bench have ruled Trump can't fire employees indiscriminately.

Is this the fake one Trump had made?

 

[RedCowboy]

YOUR POLITICAL ACTIVIST DISTRICT JUDGES HAVE BEEN OVERRULED

TRUMP CAN FIRE GOVT. EMPLOYEES and THERE'S NOTHING YOU CAN DO ABOUT IT.

 

[Aorus Forever]

You can lie about trump all you want, but HISTORY IS FOREVER!!

Long after we are all dead and gone trump will still be known as THE WORST PRESIDENT IN US HISTORY!! AND, THAT MY FRIEND, IS tRUMP'S LEGACY AND NOTHING WILL EVER CHANGE THAT...

History always has the last laugh! ​

 

[RedCowboy]

So YOU say...... so what...... nobody except other TDS poisoned, perpetual victims, crybaby socialist will even care, Trump will continue to Win for patriots who want to see America become Great again.

Keep running morons, seriously do it again.

 

[Aorus Forever]

So far in his second term it isn't looking too good, but you, much like Charlie Sheen, keep on telling yourself "WINNING"...



But history has already decided! ​

 

[Aorus Forever]

See, I can do what you do, you must be having the time of your life?!

 

[paul1598419]

YOUR POLITICAL ACTIVIST DISTRICT JUDGES HAVE BEEN OVERRULED

TRUMP CAN FIRE GOVT. EMPLOYEES and THERE'S NOTHING YOU CAN DO ABOUT IT.

Those Federal courts rulings against Trump's firing of federal employees are still in force. The SCOTUS hasn't ruled he can fire anyone he wants.

 

[RedCowboy]

We will see about that.

See, I can do what you do, you must be having the time of your life?!

I disagree.

You have consumed way too much liberal kool aid, you are far too willing to believe some BS just because some other Trump hater crawled out of the liberal cesspool and made a claim from decades ago, you really think anyone cares ?

Just what is it you want to see happen ?
Impeachment and removal...... good luck with that, but even if it somehow could come to pass, would you be happy with President JD Vance ?

Is that what you want or will you complain about a President Vance too ?
Just what is your concept of making everything right in our world ?
Maybe you just want to complain because Trump is killing your socialist dreams ?

 

[Aorus Forever]

We will see about that.


I disagree.

You have consumed way too much liberal kool aid, you are far too willing to believe some BS just because some other Trump hater crawled out of the liberal cesspool and made a claim from decades ago, you really think anyone cares ?

Just what is it you want to see happen ?
Impeachment and removal...... good luck with that, but even if it somehow could come to pass, would you be happy with President JD Vance ?

Is that what you want or will you complain about a President Vance too ?
Just what is your concept of making everything right in our world ?
Maybe you just want to complain because Trump is killing your socialist dreams ?

Aucontraire, I've never said anything positive about the Democrats or if favor of them, I've only denounced the proven and CONVICED SEVRAL TIMES OVER, criminal scumbag, trump! AND at least half of America CARES!

So, tell me what has trump done DIRECTLY to make your life better, remember I said DIRECTLY! So, unless you had undocumented immigrants on your property, you can't talk about immigrants, get it?

Again, tell me what has trump done DIRECTLY to make your life better?

 

[Aorus Forever]

We will see about that.


I disagree.

You have consumed way too much liberal kool aid, you are far too willing to believe some BS just because some other Trump hater crawled out of the liberal cesspool and made a claim from decades ago, you really think anyone cares ?

Just what is it you want to see happen ?
Impeachment and removal...... good luck with that, but even if it somehow could come to pass, would you be happy with President JD Vance ?

Is that what you want or will you complain about a President Vance too ?
Just what is your concept of making everything right in our world ?
Maybe you just want to complain because Trump is killing your socialist dreams ?

Oh, I believe police reports, eyewitness testimony, and a court of law, over a proven liar/convicted felon and some trump sycophants, every day of the week, and twice on Sunday, as do most Real Americans!

 

[RedCowboy]

So you don't believe Trump is innocent until proven guilty, interesting, that makes you prejudice because you pre-judge him.

What has Trump done directly to make my life better ?
There's a long list, I won't list it all but here's a couple:
Trump beat Harris, that made me VERY HAPPY.
Trump has signed pro 2A executive orders, again making me VERY HAPPY.

So I answered your question, now what would you think about a President JD Vance ?