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[paul1598419]

After all the good things Biden has done after Trump's massive failures and illegal activities it's amazing that MAGA's want him back. But, that's just the disfunction of the Republican party now. Far less unemployment than in more than 50 years and prices seem to be stabilizing, but no...a small fraction of voters want to go back to the disfunction irrespective of the gains. That is why I've never been able to vote that nutty party.

 

[HD58PHD]

Yes Red, nail on the head. The LEFT hates him because he stands for US! The people trying to destroy America have been using everything possible to prevent Trump from saving OUR country. PERIOD! I find it hard to,,, no, impossible to believe there are that many idio, I mean that many Sheeples voted for the second most corrupt politician in the U.S.! (behind Piglosi) lol! But, alas, I have seen with mine own eyes, that some are going to vote to continue to support the Biden path to the destruction of our once Great America. My own brother thinks Biden is a great lol, "President", lol. The Wanderer in Chief is just a cuck puppet for the wannabe rulers of the world. All of these Village/Useful Idiots will be the ones standing in line for their monthly ration of insect protein powder talking about how their vote saved their "Democracy"! Because they are TFS to realize they are the reason they are eating bugs for the rest of their ignorant life. Can't make this stuff up. Truth can be brutal sometimes. Peace.

 

[HD58PHD]

Quick question here, Paul, are you for real? Or is this satire?
If this is satire, please end the post with a "lol" or something so people don't get the wrong idea! Just sayin'.

 

[paul1598419]

Yes Red, nail on the head. The LEFT hates him because he stands for US! The people trying to destroy America have been using everything possible to prevent Trump from saving OUR country. PERIOD! I find it hard to,,, no, impossible to believe there are that many idio, I mean that many Sheeples voted for the second most corrupt politician in the U.S.! (behind Piglosi) lol! But, alas, I have seen with mine own eyes, that some are going to vote to continue to support the Biden path to the destruction of our once Great America. My own brother thinks Biden is a great lol, "President", lol. The Wanderer in Chief is just a cuck puppet for the wannabe rulers of the world. All of these Village/Useful Idiots will be the ones standing in line for their monthly ration of insect protein powder talking about how their vote saved their "Democracy"! Because they are TFS to realize they are the reason they are eating bugs for the rest of their ignorant life. Can't make this stuff up. Truth can be brutal sometimes. Peace.

The fact of the matter is Trump has stated before the SCOTUS that he is immune from prosecution even though Nixon was pardoned for all deeds he did as president. We fought a revolution to make certain that NO ONE WAS ABOVE THE LAW!!! Now Trump is less than a week from prosecution in NY. By "US" you mean MAGA Republicans. We are all Americans and whoever wins the presidency he is our commander-in-chief. It's hilarious that Trump claims absolute immunity from prosecution while he states that Biden should be prosecuted. How nuts is that?

 

[paul1598419]

www.yahoo.com/news/shady-company-backing-trump-bond-155853187.html

You can't make this stuff up! Don Hankey who is supposedly covering Trump's lowered bond of $175 million was actually willing to cover the entire amount of $464 million and even though the $175 million is not covered by a NY Assurity Company it is now going to be reviewed by a NY court. Trump's attorneys didn't bother to tell the court about the entire amount being covered. Instead they claimed no one would cover this amount. Stay tuned!

Don Hankey is being called shady because he was compelled to pay more than $88 million for overcharging on high interest car loans and was charged hundreds of thousands dollars for illegally repossessing high interest cars from active service members. He also charge a Massachusetts business 90% interest on a small business loan and 268% interest on another business loan.

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[Lifetime17]

After all the good things Biden has done after Trump's massive failures and illegal activities it's amazing that MAGA's want him back. But, that's just the disfunction of the Republican party now. Far less unemployment than in more than 50 years and prices seem to be stabilizing, but no...a small fraction of voters want to go back to the disfunction irrespective of the gains. That is why I've never been able to vote that nutty party.

Hi Paul ,
Everyone has the right to their opinion correct , How did he do any good with the Afghan pullout with the troops leaving solders and civilians in danger. Plus all the billions of dollars in equipment to the enemy.Sorry had to get hat off my chest.

 

[paul1598419]

Hi Paul ,
Everyone has the right to their opinion correct , How did he do any good with the Afghan pullout with the troops leaving solders and civilians in danger. Plus all the billions of dollars in equipment to the enemy.Sorry had to get hat off my chest.

I'm not saying that Biden did everything perfectly. But, he certainly committed no crimes. I know you support Trump irrespective of his crimes, but this election is about the very existence of our democracy. Trump has already said that he will get revenge against those who prosecuted him and that he is above the law because he was president. We just can't go there again. Look at what autocracy has done to Hungary. That is what we will be looking at if Trump manages to get back into the White House.

 

[paul1598419]

I the Washington Post today: Fictions, misleading statements, wild exaggerations and lies - former president Donald Trump dispenses untruths of one form or another on a regular basis. The falsehoods range from the inconsequential, like the crowd size of his inauguration to the democracy-shaking, like the "stolen" 2020 election.

With Trump barreling toward November when the Americans will get a chance to choose him to lead the nation again, the Washington Post fact checker sought to get a sense of the staying power of his lies - whether people are more or less likely to believe them over time and which lies proved the most stickiest - as well measure the value Americans place of the president's honesty, however they define it.

Midway through Trump's presidency, in 2018, the Post documented through a poll that most Americans, including Republicans, did not believe his repeated claims.

A fresh Washington Post - Schar School poll shows that remains largely the case with an average of 28% believing Trump's false claims tested in the poll.

But, Trump has made significant inroads in convincing Republicans that his lies are the truth. That applies to election integrity especially, Trump's "big lie".

Even more significant Americans have appeared to diverged on the meaning of honesty itself. Among Republicans, fewer now say that Trump makes misleading statements. Slightly more view him as honest than did in 2018, despite an extraordinarily large amount of evidence that Trump often does not tell the truth. During Trump's presidency the Fact Checker documented more than 30,000 misleading or outright false claims, and since he began his second campaign against Joe Biden, he's introduced new falsehoods to his catalogue: inflation is "almost 50%" under President Biden; "nearly one million jobs held by native-born Americans" have been lost to immigrants. In a single interview with Fox News Sean Hannity Trump made 24 false or misleading claims in five minutes - one every 12.5 seconds.

Six years ago just 1 in 4 Republicans (26%) agreed that millions of fraudulent votes were cast during the 2016 election. Now 38% of Republicans and 47% of strong Trump supporters believe this now the case. Among all Americans belief in this false claim has hardly changed because the rest of Americans have moved in the opposite direction. Trump often made this claim to justify his loss of the popular vote to Hillary Clinton , when the electoral college propelled him to the Oval Office.

Trump has convinced 70% of Republicans and 81% of his strong supporters that Biden won the 2020 election because of voter fraud, though not a single allegation has been proven. Just 1 in 3 Americans overall believe this. He has convinced 51% of Republicans and 58% of his most fervent supporters that some cities tallied more votes than registered voters. This ludicrous claim is disproven by checking the statistics. Yet Trump has repeated at rally after rally, identifying Democratic strongholds like Detroit or Philadelphia.

False claims about election integrity are not the only ones that have taken hold.

While Biden has pushed forward with significant investments in green energy to combat climate change, the poll finds that Trump's argument that temperatures are rising because of natural causes has gained traction with Republicans. Whereas one third believed this in 2018, now nearly half of Republicans (46%) think this is the case. As a result, the number of Americans that say that human activity had little to do with climate change has climbed to 26%, up from 19% in 2018.

Only one Trump false claim tested has shown some slippage in support among Republicans - that the U.S. funds the majority of NATO's budget. (The U.S provides 15.9% of NATO's budget for military related operations, maintenance and headquarters - the same as Germany) More than half of Republicans believed this in 2018 (53%); now that has ticked down to 46%. Just over one third of Americans overall believe this. Trump's rhetoric has had to contend with news reports of NATO allies sending military aid to Ukraine as it fends off a Russian invasion, focusing new attention on the share of the load they shoulder.

As for that Russian invasion, Trump's claim - without evidence - that Russian President Vladimir Putin would not have invaded has resonated with Republicans (63%) and (74%) of strong Trump supporters say Putin wouldn't have invaded if Trump had remained in office. Majorities of Independents (51%) and Democrats (78%) believe Putin would have invaded regardless of who is in office.

One of the more striking findings in 2018 is that Republicans have become less concerned than they were a decade earlier. In 2007 an AP Yahoo poll found 71% of Republicans saying it was "extremely important" that presidential candidates are honest, similar to 70% of Democrats and 66% of independents. The 2018 poll showed near identical numbers for Democrats and independents, while the Republican share had dropped to 49% - 22% lower than just a decade earlier.

In one of the clearest measures of how deeply Trump's lies have pierced the American consciousness, more Republicans now believe Trump is more honest than did in 2018. Asked whether Trump makes regular misleading statements, the share of Republicans dipped 10%, to 38%. The percentage of Republicans that said Trump makes outright false statements ticked down to 8% from 14%.

 

[RedCowboy]

 

[paul1598419]

BTW, my earlier post is now the complete story by the Washington Post.

 

[RedCowboy]

 

[paul1598419]

Hope you guys read that entire Washington Post article. It is very enlightening. Post # 24 in this thread.

 

[RedCowboy]

 

[paul1598419]

John Kennedy is an idiot! They want to impeach Biden, but lack any evidence of a crime. Trump, on the other hand, is so corrupt he got impeached twice and is facing 4 indictments and 91 charges. We have never seen anyone running in a major party so corrupt as Trump. He is stoking the fires of the Christian Nationalists now. These are people who want Christianity name the official religion in the U.S. How nutty is that? The Constitution neither uses the word Christianity or Jesus or Christ at all.

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[RedCowboy]

Trump was impeached for daring to seek justice against the corrupt Bidens for their corruption in Ukraine and the Trump impeachments were just one sided Trump bashing festivals.

Now the Mayorkas impeachment is on account of the disaster at out southern border, but democrats don't even want people to hear the facts laid out in the studies that we taxpayers have paid to have put into reports, typical democrat scumbaggery.

As Impeachment Looms, Mayorkas Finally Gives Up the Ghost – Immigration Reform Law Institute

irli.org

 

[paul1598419]

Trump was impeached for daring to seek justice against the corrupt Bidens for their corruption in Ukraine and the Trump impeachments were just one sided Trump bashing festivals.

Now the Mayorkas impeachment is on account of the disaster at out southern border, but democrats don't even want people to hear the facts laid out in the studies that we taxpayers have paid to have put into reports, typical democrat scumbaggery.

As Impeachment Looms, Mayorkas Finally Gives Up the Ghost – Immigration Reform Law Institute

irli.org

Trump tried to get Ukraine to "say" they were investigating Biden. He really didn't care if they actually did. That was illegal and was the reason he got impeached the first time. But, it wasn't until he tried to STEAL the election from Biden that Republicans joined Democrats in the Senate to vote for conviction. As I remember, it was only eight or nine votes short of conviction. 2/3rds is a high bar to get to. No one has ever been convicted...even Andrew Johnson wasn't though he tried to allow the south to get away with no consequences in a mostly Republican held Senate that had enough Republicans to convict. Just three days left until Trump goes no trial. I must buy some microwave popcorn!